Why Cuckold Fantasies Are Exploding Right Now

Welcome to the very first episode of The Cuckold Marriage Podcast, where married couple Christopher and Lexie pull back the curtain on a relationship dynamic that’s often misunderstood, oversimplified, and rarely discussed with honesty.

In this podcast, we share our real-life experiences living in a cuckold marriage—exploring the emotional highs, the challenges, the psychology, and the evolving dynamics that come with it. Along the way, we’ll share stories, insights, and lessons from our journey, giving listeners an unfiltered look into what this lifestyle actually looks and feels like behind closed doors.

In Episode 1, we start at the foundation: what a cuckold marriage really is—and what it isn’t. Moving beyond stereotypes and assumptions, we break down the emotional and psychological layers that define this dynamic. From curiosity and desire to jealousy and connection, we explore why this lifestyle draws people in and why it’s far more complex than most expect.

If you’ve ever been curious, confused, or quietly drawn to this dynamic, this episode is your starting point.

Visit Lexie at www.CuckoldressLexie.com 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Welcome everybody to Cuckhold Marriage Podcast. I'm Chris and I'm here with the one and only goddess herself, cuckholdress Lexi Meadows. I am so excited to be here. Lexi, are you excited to be here?

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Totally.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

So we are starting this podcast as our first episode, so kind of give us a little bit of grace as we go along and as we kind of get used to doing this and figuring out all the technology behind it and editing and all of those pieces. But we are a married couple, and some of you may have heard Lexi on the Venus Cuck Holdress podcast podcast, which uh came out in February. And Venus is the best, right?

SPEAKER_02 0:49

She's amazing. I love her.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

And so after um Lexi was on Venus, she just really enjoyed being able to tell her story. And then we were able to join one of Venus's pillow talks, and we just really liked it. And you know, Venus is such a strong advocate for the women's voice within the cuck holding community. And then you have folks like the uh cuck my life folks, you know, speaking from the cucks perspective. You have bulls and queens with Doc Chocolate talking about a bull. And so we just really wanted to kind of be able to provide a couple's perspective.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Absolutely. There's kind of a void in that. There's no uh couples showing how they live their dynamic.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah, absolutely. And so, you know, we wanted to come on here and just really provide an honest perspective that's a balanced perspective from both, you know, Lexi and myself, and talking about different aspects of the cuck holding lifestyle and and different lifestyles within kind of that that spectrum, um, whether that be from stag vixen to to to female-led relationship, cuck holding relationships. There's a whole kind of spectrum as as it goes along this way. But we're gonna talk about all that as we go along. We're gonna have some guests on this podcast as we go along. I think the first several we we have kind of planned out of what we want to talk about, but I I just uh I'm just really looking forward to kind of sharing our story. And Lexi, I thought maybe maybe we would start for anybody who didn't hear Venus with kind of our story of, you know, from your perspective, how did how did this get started between? I guess first we with you and then between you and I.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Well, I had had a prior relationship for uh an extended period of time, about a decade, um, where um he had come forth and been like, you know, um I kind of am into this. What do you think about this? And I thought, well, you know, why not? Variety, right? Am I right, ladies? Yeah, who wouldn't like variety? So um, you know, I did that in a prior relationship. And then when I started dating Chris, we were still very fresh in our dating. Um, and he just came right out with it in a text message, nonetheless, and was basically like, hey, you know, um, I, you know, I've kind of always had this fantasy, and um, you know, what do you what do you think about maybe trying this sort of relationship and uh maybe we could go to some sex clubs and you know, do all these things. And I was kind of like, oh, all right, well, then we're just going right into it, aren't we? Okay. So I just kind of responded with like a all right, well, been there, done that. And so that got him really excited. He was pretty happy to hear hear that sort of response. Not sure what he was expecting, but yeah, it just kind of took off from there. Our sexual relationship, at least.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Yeah, no, definitely not. Uh, I mean, it it was pretty cool, you know, starting to date Lexi and just kind of realizing how open she was about just so many different things. So when I shot that text message, it wasn't just a shot in the dark, you know, one in a million chance. I thought there was a greater than zero percent chance that that she might say yes to this sort of an agreement.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

And glad you had that confidence. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Yeah, I am too. So, like I said, Lexi and I are new to this. So um, we actually have some notes. So if you're watching the video version of this, you may see us look down every now and then. So excuses for that as we go along, we'll probably get better at this. But um, you know, Lexi and I wanted to kind of share some certain aspects. So we wanted to make sure that we had all that stuff down. Um, so Lexi, did you want to kind of kick us off?

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Well, I mean, starting off, I I guess the first question would be like, what sort of made us want to come out with this publicly?

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Hmm. Yeah, well, I mean, I guess, I guess, like I said, you know, it really has to do with there not being a strong voice around a balanced married couple where you have it's almost like if you're watching point of view porn, right? You get like the point of view of like both people at the same time. Like it's kind of cool to be able to get in into two people's heads, both the cuckoldress, the hot wife, and the and the cuckold at the exact same time, which I think is kind of kind of cool, right?

SPEAKER_02 4:58

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, what do you think is so important about everyone having both perspectives?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Well, you know, sometimes you know, the cut perspective can be a bit unrealistic, maybe. Um, and then quite frankly, like we just I mean, I know I speak for myself. I have no idea what's going through your mind 90% of the time when this is going on. So I'm looking forward to kind of learning along with the audience. You know, I'll probably learn stuff about you and the way you function and what you're thinking as you're going along with this because we're just kind of like living the lifestyle. We don't really set up. I don't know. I guess we do talk about it a lot, but I'm excited to learn more about it.

SPEAKER_02 5:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

Lexi, what do you think most people get wrong about this type of a relationship, kind of from the word go? Because, you know, the cool thing about Lexi, and and uh, and and we're we're gonna talk about this as we go along, is not only do we have a cuckold marriage, but you actually provide cuckold coaching and you actually do virtual and in-person cuckolding for for other guys who have a cuckold fantasy and have no real way to act it out. So you have not only like my perspective, but you work with like dozens of guys around the world. And so you get to hear like all these different fantasies and like what they're actually doing, what they want to do. So, like, what do most people get wrong? You know, but either with it's me or or some of your other cucks.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Well, with you, I mean so many things. We don't have time for all that. Uh I'm just kidding. Um, I I would say that a lot of uh people have this they only think about it in a specific moment. So it's only about the sexy time. And it's not just about that. It's it's uh it's a lifestyle. So it's days before I go on a date with a bull or see another cuck, you know, it's it's days after. It's the random little comments that I make here and there, the ways that I assert my control, the ways that I assert um dominance and make ways of making him jealous, ways of feeding that fantasy that he has in his head. And my favorite things are whenever I catch him completely off guard. And those are the most fun to me.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Yeah, I I I mean, I I completely agree with that. And the I mean, she couldn't be more right, is that we live it not as a scene. So for us, it's not just like that compact, like we're in the bedroom for an hour and then end scene, and then we go back to like living our vanilla life. That's not like this is like this is how we live our life. Um, that's not to say that every couple is gonna experience it in the same way as us. For some folks, it's it is just like that scene, and then they go back to to being normal. Um, or what is normal, right? Or they go back to being more like what society would say is more traditional. Right. Um but um, but yeah, for us it is 24-7. I mean, I never know when Lexi is gonna tell me, like, hey, go do this, like, hey, do this, or A, just like randomly be like, cuck, go get me a cup of coffee or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

It's not just that, it's also, you know, a matter of just let's say, in the essence of after, um, hey, you like this new perfume I got? Yeah. My bull got it for me last time I saw him.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

I was wearing it when he fucked me last.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah, she does do that kind of shit. It's amazing. It's pretty freaking great. She's really, really good at what she does, and I'm sure all of all your fellow cuts would say the same thing. Um, so but you know what's interesting about this dynamic is that it we we see it growing in popularity.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

It's true.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

And so I'm just you the well, why do you think it is growing, Lexi? Why is it growing more visible?

SPEAKER_02 8:43

Well, uh, the internet. I mean, we we now have a way to communicate with people all all over the world at all hours of the day. And um, something that in the past, where when you didn't have those lines of communication, you had to hope to maybe feel out other couples and see if maybe they'd be into it. Whereas you can just now go online any time of day and look up information on it. You can go into chat rooms and talk about it. Um, it's it's wildly available online. And so, you know, I don't think that it's necessarily that it's something that people are I mean, there are every day people are going online and discovering this and finding out, oh my gosh, well, I I never thought about this, but this is amazing. But a lot of the times I think that this isn't something that just is a trend or a fad that's becoming popular. I think that's something that people have always had a fantasy for, and now it's just being um talked about more because we have that ability to communicate with each other in amazing ways.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yeah. And I think also um just this whole movement over the last, I don't know how many years, maybe decade or something like that, about people really embracing who they are and just kind of growing comfortable with who they are and in the space. And I think that you saw, you know, I know when I was dating, it was not uncommon on a dating profile to see ENM ethically non-monogamous. Like that was like super common on like every dating app, whether that be we're not talking about the fields, we're talking about the tinders, the bumbles, like the hinges, like all had ENM, you know, on them, ethically non non-monogamous, but you don't really see the the the cuckold type relationship on there just yet. I know you and Venus talked about that. You and Venus talked about that, but yeah, I think just even that door being open to the spectrum of cuck holding and that kind of lifestyle has has really moved the conversation. Would you agree?

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Well, yeah, and absolutely. I mean, they they say that um over, what was it, over 50% of um people have fantasized about their partner being with someone else. And so, I mean, it's it's definitely a movement, it's coming, and I don't think that it's gonna be too long before we see on those vanilla dating sites or sites that are more geared toward this sort of um different lifestyle, that that's gonna become an option instead of just ethically non-monogamous, we're gonna see um, you know, stag vixen, um, cuck hold, cuck old dress, things like that showing up.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah, I think so too. Um, so Lexi, I have a question because you work with a lot of different cucks. Do you think men or women are driving this more?

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Men. I mean, it's definitely men, and that's not a bad thing. I'm just saying, um, it's it's definitely men that that seem to drive it. I mean, uh, a man drove it in my previous relationship, you drove it in this one. All the women I've talked to, the men drive it, the men are the women ones that bring it up. 99% of the time. I have come across a few, however, where the man has actually fantasized about it and the woman brings it up. And so it it's you know, it's it's sometimes the women, the women are behind it, but I think that a lot of the time men tend to be the driving force behind it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

Yeah, I I mean, I I think you're 100% correct from the guys that I talk to. It seems like it's the man wanting to drive it, but it does lead me to to ask the question though. So men are asking for it, like, are women thinking about it beforehand? Like, I mean, are you like if you didn't have a like a hall pass, would you see a cute guy at a bar and still want to fuck him, but just not act on it? Like, I'm I'm just curious. Of course. So, so basically, you're just having the ability to act on what's already going on in your head. So are you saying that because here's where I want to give some of our some of our hopeful cucks some hope. So, you telling me that if we did not have this type of arrangement, you would still see a guy and want to fuck him every now and then.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Well, yeah, I think majority of women would, they just wouldn't act on it.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

There we go, guys. Your wife does want to fuck somebody else, she just may not be doing it yet. You heard it here from cuckholder as Lexi.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

You've got to be able to pry that out properly. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Yeah, well, and that I mean, and that's what part of what you do with your coaching, right? Yeah, you help folks like pry it out the right way, because if you do it the wrong way, it just you are so fucked. It's just done.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Too much too soon. I mean, honey bunch, you got lucky. Um but you know, if it were a lot of other women and uh especially if they had not had the experience that I'd had, and you were just to bust it out in text message when y'all were not very far along, um she might have been running for the hills, especially since it was so early. Um, but you know, even in a long-term married committed relationship, you just spring it on someone too quickly, too strongly. It's it's a recipe for disaster. It just it it can cause that that lifelong or five-year-long or year-long relation or uh fantasy to implode before it even began. So it's important to to do it right. There are seeds that you have to, so you know, you have to lay the foundation a little bit in order to to get what you want. You um most of the time you're not able to just spring it on a girl and expect a positive reaction.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Right, exactly. Well, let's turn our attention kind of a little bit more to the psychology of cuck holding, since this is kind of our first episode and kind of just again that balanced viewpoint. Again, let's get in the head of the cuck, let's get in the head of the cuck holdress and kind of talk about some of these items. So let's first talk about um let's talk about jealousy. Like, do you have any questions for me, like specifically about like how jealousy, you know, what that looks like?

SPEAKER_02 14:53

How the heck does that become arousal?

SPEAKER_00 14:56

That's a really damn good question. Man, if I if I solve that problem.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

I'm a jealous girl, so like explain it to me because I I'm I'm very different, and that's what works with our relationship. We started off stag vixen. So um, you know, you there's no there's no you playing around. So how does the jealousy turn into arousal?

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Well, so you know, there is there is some data out there about this, actually, and I'm not just bullshitting. This is like actually like normal. Yeah, this is actually real. So, you know, some of the stuff I've read around cuck holding is is around kind of this human kind of male thing going back to like the stone age around like sperm competition. And it's like that it's it's like you know, men when they're put in a position to need to compete for that, like there's a there's a sense of like it's um it fuels adrenaline, it fuels kind of competition, it just you know fuels that arousal. But also the jealousy is really interesting because it's sort of like being in a haunted house or on a um on a giant roller coaster. Like if like if you were to ask anybody, hey, is it okay if we take you up to the top of a building and drop you down, like not not enclosed at 60 miles per hour, would you be okay with that? Most of the time you're gonna say no. But for some reason, when you're on a roller coaster and it feels like a safe environment, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and it actually is very exciting, and it's the same way with a haunted house. You know that there are scary things that are gonna pop out in a haunted house, like you know, you know that going in, but you do it anyways, and it's a rush. Um, so jealousy just mixes with a number of different emotions, and um, but it's definitely present. So if you are not currently active in this lifestyle, if you if you if you're somebody who is currently just in the fantasy phase, like just know like sounds super hot, like you are gonna be jealous. Like that is 100% gonna happen, and it's gonna be awful and awesome at the exact same time. Um, so yeah, so that's my after on jealousy. I mean, it's that might not be a good one. I mean, it's my personal opinion on jealousy. It feels like a roller coaster or a haunted house. But my my question to you as a cuckholder is what does power feel like in this dynamic?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Oh gosh. Well, I mean, it's wonderful, it's it's magical. It's it's basically the unbridled power to all in the same moment get to say something or do something that makes another person feel jealousy, arousal, um fear, happiness, just excitement, joy, all these things all at once. And you're the driving force behind it. You're you're the one that created all of those emotions that are all happening at once. I mean, it's like it's a little intoxicating, really. I mean, it's it's it's wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

All right, well wait, you know, I'm I'm actually really happy to hear that because you know, I'll say sometimes, you know, as as the person who brought it up and asked for it as as the cuck, I always hope you're getting something out of it too. You know what I'm saying? You like like I don't want it to be such a one-way street, which sounds like weird to say, right? Because I'm the one sitting home caged while you're out playing. Like it sounds weird to say, but that's how much we appreciate, you know, kind of this dynamic. Does that make any sense?

SPEAKER_02 18:34

It does. It does, and it certainly works out well for me.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

It does, yeah. Well, I'm glad so you actually enjoy it. I do, and the variety and all that stuff you enjoy too?

SPEAKER_02 18:42

It's nice, you know. I mean, as much as you're not allowed to have any, um, I sincerely enjoy the fact of knowing that I can have variety whenever I want. I can have any cock I want, anytime, anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

Yes, you can. And and you mostly do. Okay. What about um what is uh what do both partners get or that's something that's equally strong? So what do you what are you getting out of this? And and I guess what what am I getting out of this? I guess we kind of answer that a little bit, but I I can tell you from the cuck perspective. I guess the biggest thing I get out of this is connection. Like cuck holding is so little about what happens in the bedroom.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

It's about it's a it's a mind fuck. It's a it's it's it's the most intoxicating mind fuck ever. Um, but it also leads to this incredibly strong connection with your partner where you just have this. If you're going to be in this lifestyle, you need to have the deepest level of trust humanly possible. Whether you are EM, whether you are poly, whether you are swingers, whether you are stag vixen, whether you're cuck hold cuckholess, if you don't have that strong level foundation of trust and communication, this is gonna not probably end well for you. I mean, what what are your thoughts, honey?

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Well, absolutely. I mean, it it takes a certain type of mature relationship to have a dynamic like this. It's not something that you can enter into if you're not ready and if the relationship's not ready, if you guys are on the outs, you know, this is not something that is a um relationship saving operation here. You know, you it's it's something that you really have to both want it equally and you have to both be getting something out of it, and you have to be able to have adult conversations about it.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Yeah, absolutely. What do you think most people misunderstand about the dynamic?

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Um, I mean that it's that it's all one way and that it's all just um, you know, for for us ladies, it's all just you know, go do this, go do that, sit at home and wait for me. You know, be denied all this and that. It's um it it goes both ways, you know. You can't just as a coke holdress take, you have to also give. And that means you have to give emotional support, you have to give emotional stability. Um, you know, that aftercare can be really important. And you have to make sure that your partner understands at the end of the day, at the end of a, you know, a day, a weekend, whatever, of merciless teasing and denial, that they are still number one and that um you know everything's okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Yeah, I think that that's a critical thing to understand is um because Lexi is the queen of teasing and denial and like all that kind of stuff. She is just any of the guys who work with her as as her cu any of her many her plethora of cucks can attest to the fact that she is really good at teasing. But it is that critical moment. Where you uh you kind of check in, you know, with the other person. I think that's really, really important. What do you think is the biggest gap between because you talk to so many guys who have a fantasy and you talk to me? What do you think is the biggest gap between what fantasy is and reality in this lifestyle?

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Um I guess well, for me, I would say finding good bulls. It's you know, I talked about this with Venus, and she agrees. It's hard to find a good bull. It's hard to find guys out there that are reliable and consistent that have what it takes to make a good bull and be a good third party in this dynamic. Um, I thought it was gonna be easy when we first started this, and you know, it's been a little bit more difficult than I imagined it would be.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Yeah, I think that that's um that is a big challenge. The the the quote unquote bulls are really super flaky. Um I'm not sure how many of them Yeah, exactly. I mean, frankly, some of the some of the cucks are too, but I find them a little bit more reliable because they really want the fantasy.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Absolutely. I I do too.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

They really want the fantasy. I think the bull's chicken out because they don't want to have to perform in front of somebody else or something like that. Maybe I'm not sure that how many of them are actually you know, I think that's another thing because I was about to say, I'm not sure how many of the bulls are brave enough to actually do it. What do you think is the gap between fantasy and reality and the thought that, you know, a lot of cucks it there's a perception of weakness there? What is your thought there?

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Oh, yeah, you know, and I think that's a lot of a reason why a lot of cucks don't come forward is this sort of illusion or or um thought that maybe being a cuck makes you weak in some way. And it's actually quite the opposite. I mean, in order to be submissive and give up control like that, that actually takes a lot of power. And it's not something that everyone can do, and a lot of these bulls could never. Um, you know, it's it is absolutely a giving up of control, it is voluntary, it is um it's something that weak men could never do.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, being being a cuck is actually pretty freaking hard sometimes. So, especially when you have the ball buster like like Lexi over here, but she's wonderful, actually. She's an amazing cuck holder. I'm gonna get my balls slapped after this, aren't I?

SPEAKER_02 24:33

A little bit.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

What do you think people underestimate the most about going into this dynamic? And I mean, from my perspective, I think cucks underestimate how much this is not a porn and how there's real emotions involved, and just how they are gonna be impacted. It um it's all super hot until the post-not clarity. It's all like really hot until like, you know, and then like 10 seconds after you think about, you know, having having jack in the box munchie measles and how sad you are. So it's um it's something that you know, I think I think a lot of cucks underestimate that. It's just like, yeah, like there's like there's like real emotion. And it's a little bit easier when you're present, when you're like in the room with me, which doesn't happen all that often, but like when you're there, you're physically there, and like, I don't know, like everything's kind of fine right after. When you're not there, I don't really have to worry about post-not clarity because you lock me up now. So like that doesn't happen, but it's yeah, but it's still just like you know, when the when when that spot in the bed is empty, like that that's something you have to that's something you have to like just be able to absorb, and you can't put that on your partner, um, you know, especially if you're the one that asked for it. What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_02 25:59

No, I agree entirely. I mean, I I expect that whenever I come home, um, you know, there's gonna be a certain amount of aftercare, um, just to, you know, reassure my partner that um, you know, he is my number one and that everything is okay, and just figuring out where his head is at, um, you know, where where you are and how you're feeling and everything like that. Um, but yeah, I definitely think it's it's always post-nut clarity, you know, because before then I don't have to worry about you. I'm like, I'm having fun, Cuck. Why are you bothering me?

SPEAKER_00 26:34

Yeah, but now, like I said, like that's not a problem anymore. And so, like, we're we're normally pretty good. But um, yeah, oh, the the new thing. We we had mentioned this on Venus's Pillow Talk, but if you didn't hear it, the new thing is when she's out on a date. So then Lexi will give you all her all her uh website and fansly and all that afterwards. But she now, instead of like giving me updates, what she does is she posts updates on the date onto her fansly account. So I find out at the exact same time, a lot of times after your fans do. Talk about the origin of that idea. I mean, that is just devilishly like it, it's as Venus would say, cut Coldrus 5,000. We're to talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 27:19

I I I think that if I remember correctly, the idea came from, you know, I was I was trying to give him an update before I posted something, and then I decided, why am I doing that? Why? Like maybe we just find out at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Yeah, which is pretty awesome. It makes for great content, but it also just drives me freaking nuts as her as her cuck. It's just it's freaking awesome, man. Like, I just I can't I don't know where you come up with this stuff. Like, you're just you're the best at teasing. Um, what do you think are the biggest mistakes people make in this dynamic?

SPEAKER_02 28:00

I mean I would say, you know, one from from my pers perspective, um, you know, ladies, sometimes the power can get to your head a little bit. And it's, you know, especially when your cucks are craving that denial, um, it's easy to start denying too much. And that's never good. So, I mean, you really have to be careful with how much, how long, how often you're denying, because if you do it too much, then that can create a problem in the relationship. And suddenly he feels like something is happening to him instead of with him. Um, and so I think just power, you know, and the the beauty and art of denial, one second, he's loving it, but if you take it too far, it can be detrimental.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Yeah, and I think on the other side, the the biggest one of the biggest mistakes is well, obviously, you know, before it even gets started, the way that a cuck approaches it with a with a partner or with or with a spouse, anything like that, like that's normally a giant fuck up. But then also just expecting too much too soon. You can't you can't you can't hit a home run every single time, like on the first time out. Like on the first time that that your partner agrees to do this, it's not gonna end in a gangbang in the middle of a sex club, you know? Like it's just like, but this is the mind of a cuck that wants that. Like, that's literally what wait, the wife said yes, yes, go. Yeah, yes, may mean I will go have a drink with somebody and see how it does.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

And push too hard too fast, and the overwhelming odds are that she will come home after having a nice glass of wine and that'll be it for that night. Yeah, that but look, maybe, maybe she got a taste and she she's willing to go out on another date. Maybe she liked it, maybe she hated it. I mean, what what do you think about that, honey? I I mean I I think that's a huge mistake cucks make is that they want too much too soon. And you, you know, maybe use me as an example or some of the guys that you work with, obviously, not none of them, we would never call anybody out, but just like what what do you see in terms of cucks making this mistake about wanting too much too soon?

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Well, I see it, it it forms a sort of pressure to their partner. So it very quickly goes from, oh, you know, my my partner has this fantasy, um, let me consider it, to I feel pressured to perform. I feel pressured to do what my partner wants. And it's no longer become a fun little game between us, it's no longer a fun little fantasy that we were potentially going to explore together. It's become pressure, and I feel like I'm being pushed, and that's just a guaranteed way to get it to never freaking happen.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Yeah, for sure. Um so let's talk a little bit about who this kind of a lifestyle works for. So when you think about I mean, there are a lot of different kinds of lifestyles, right? Right. And and and you know, different kinds of personalities. What kind of a personality do you think fits really well into a cut-cold marriage or a cut-cold relationship?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I think both partners have to be pretty frisky. Um yeah, agreed. I think that um you know, secondary to that though, if you do not have a truly emotionally mature relationship where both partners are emotionally mature and are able to have a conversation whenever maybe things get awkward, someone feels a little pushed, maybe someone feels a little uncomfortable, um, pressured, anything like that, or something goes wrong in not just the first one, or but you know, several after that, some some sort of experience, something doesn't quite go according to the visual image that one of the partners had. Um if if you guys are not able to be communicative and um really sit down and be like, you know, hey, you know, this is great and all, but when it this happened, you know, I was kind of expecting it to be more like this, and it kind of made me feel a little like this, and blah, blah, blah. If you're not able to have those conversations, things are not gonna end well. It's avoidance is not good. Um, resentment is not good. So you have to be able to speak to one another and have enough respect to hear the other person out.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

That's that's the key. You know, I think that the key to this is uh the couples that can make it work are the ones who can communicate and trust each other and forgive each other, and um and just be be able to uh create this sense of uh emotional security. Venus talked about this with you that that when I started to explore my submissive side, it was really she really picked up on something when she said it, you know, and she said you've created a spatial emotional security. And I completely agree with that. And I think that's part of what makes this dynamic work is is having a having a team where uh the partner can feel vulnerable. You know, and that's the the environment that you create for me, is this is this just I feel safe to be able to say what's on my mind, what I need, what I don't need, what I need to stop, what I need you to accelerate. Um and you know, I feel like you and I just have so many deep conversations and such an interesting, unique life that is, you know, pretty cool. You know, we we have a lot of we have a lot of fun together. That's that's for sure. What do you think though are red flags that maybe the the dynamic is going off the rails? Let's say you're doing it for a while and then all of a sudden you're like, hmm, like something's off.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

I mean, uh again, I think that a lack of maybe aftercare can sometimes cause some um some resentment, maybe, in the cuck. I think that um sometimes the if there's too much pushing by the cuck for this sort of dynamic, then there's resentment caused on the part of the female in the relationship. Maybe um, you know, one minute she's feeling like queen of the world, and the next she's feeling a lot of pressure, like she has to keep performing over and over again. And if it's not enjoyable for both parties at all times, it's there's a problem. It doesn't mean it's not solvable, but it means that you guys need to talk about it and be open and and see um, you know, it's not a blame game, it's about moving forward. What how can this look better and more like how both parties want it to look?

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Yeah. Again, it just it's just always gonna circle back to that to that communication and and you know, I think some of the red flags if you see the cuck with withdrawing, if you see if you notice more sadness than joy, if you like, you know, she you just gotta be attuned to that. You gotta be willing to hit pause on the dynamic when it needs to be paused. Um, because this is real life. You know, there's real life, you know, responsibilities and running a house and all that stuff and hurt feelings and all those kind of things. I wrote an article on your website about um she was nice enough to allow me to write one of her a blog post about the the blender of emotions that goes into um into cuck holding. And so you just have to you have to be aware of that stuff and on both sides and be willing to say, hey, pause, time out, like okay, you know, like that felt good until it didn't. Um like it's it's okay to say that. It's okay to say that. Do you think that so you and I were doing this from pretty much the word go? Do you think somebody can grow into it? Like, let's say somebody's been married for like 20 years, the guy hasn't brought it up, but like he does, but like, is that can that happen after that long of a period of time?

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Well, absolutely. I mean, we've grown into it, we didn't start off this way. I think that um it's very rare for a um couple or a new relationship, whatever, to just go from zero to 60. That's not realistic, that's not how it works. You know, I think that a lot of times if a couple wants to, especially, you know, if the man, let's face it, wants to go to a cuckold relationship, um, starting off as a hot wife, you know, sort of stad pixen type thing, is a really good way to transition into it instead of going straight into cuckolding. Um you know, it's we started off that way. We didn't start off, you know, doing cuckoldress, cuck hold. We we started off stadix and you know, hot wife and all that. And once we went from that to um, you know, cuck and cuckholdress, we also went to uh after that we went to FLR, which is female-led relationship. So we it's in every relationship, I mean, it just it's it's very it's highly likely that this is how it's gonna be. It's always gonna grow, it's not gonna progress or it's not gonna just start from from nothing and go to you know 190. It's uh there's a progression and that's very, very common.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Yeah, and I think at the beginning when we were stag vixen and we were doing almost exclusively threesomes, um, with uh with another with another guy joining us, there was never any kind of like we're not into the male male kind of touching, but I mean that's the you know, we're both focused on you. And um, I think that was a comfortable way for all of us to get started because then you weren't alone. Like I was able to to be in the room and get accustomed to it. And um, yeah, I think that I think that's really good advice, Lexi, is just about kind of tech taking it one step at a time. So I I guess my my uh what one of my last questions for you is what happens when cucks always want this? But I know that from a woman's perspective, I mean, there's there's different times of the month where you feel differently about about sex and all that stuff. Can you help cucks understand why this is a hard thing to sustain, like 365 days a year? Yeah, um and also how non-sexual that what we were talking about living the lifestyle can fill the gaps of like when you're not feeling it's turned on.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Okay. So for one thing, you know, then it's impossible for y'all to understand because you don't have to freaking deal with it. But y'all's hormones change over the span of 24 hours. Your hormones in the morning are gonna be different than how they are in the middle of the day and on in the evening. They do have a cycle, however, um they're not nearly as intense or extreme as ours, and they're not based on a 24-hour clock. Ours are not based on that, ours are based on a you know, four-week type of thing. And so there are gonna be weeks where your partner is going to be rare to go, ready, let's do this, and you're gonna be on top of the moon. And there are going to be weeks or days or whatever that she's like, how about no? And you don't take it personally, it's not chances are it's not about you, it is about her, it's not her fault. We have different hormones that are raging through our bodies and brains that naturally cause us to feel differently and act differently um sexually. And so, um, but ladies who might be listening to this, um, it's during those times when maybe you're not exactly raring to go that that's a good time for you to go into that denial mode that our cucks love so much and um be that extreme tease, you know, do the things that you need to do to keep him drooling, but he doesn't actually get you. It's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Yeah, uh it's fantastic. Ladies, take that advice. Guys want to be cucks, actual cucks, like you know what I'm talking about. Like the denial part of it, just the teasing, that the little kind of jabs like we're watching a movie, and you're like, hey, I'd love to fuck that actor, whatever, like whatever you say, you know, like it's just like out of nowhere, and it's just that's it, that's all it takes. You know, it's it's pretty cool when you do that. So, one of the things I wanted to try to do every one of these episodes that we do is bring something up that you didn't expect and kind of spring it on you. So I wanted, I think that it would be fun if the audience kind of heard a little bit about the story because you know, we talk about Lexi being so good at the teasing and about just the cuckolders 5,000 type of stuff. So I want to talk about the time we went to Dave and Buster's and you won the um, what was that thing?

SPEAKER_01 41:32

Stuffed sloth.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

It was a sloth. So we go to Dave and Busters, and one of Lexi's favorite things to do is win giant stuffed animals. So love it. We spent the nights with her with the goal of getting this giant sloth, right? Do you remember that darn thing?

SPEAKER_02 41:49

I remember.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

And the entire night, not only was she playing video games, but she was flirting with most of the staff there at Dave and Buster's and um, you know, just being a little bit kind of as I was walking around holding her, like holding her drink and holding her like card for tickets and all that stuff. And then eventually you did win that. Um Damn right. You did win that, but then what did you have me do next?

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Well, after that, we we went to a uh club, I think it was, and um, I had you freaking hold my purse and my sloth while I danced with other guys.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yes, it was pretty epic and pretty freaking embarrassing, humiliating. You're welcome, kind of standing in the corner holding a fucking giant sloth and a purse while she's in the middle of the dance floor, just like and then the worst part is you bring one of the guys with us to have Denny's afterwards. That's the worst fucking part. Yeah, but that but by the way, guys, and that was the end of the night. He didn't go home with us or anything like that. But see, that's a perfect example of it, doesn't all have to be about the sex, right? Like there was no sex that night. I don't even think you and I had it. I I don't remember if we did, but I I mean what what I remember about that night was the fun game that we played, you know, because cuck holding is it's a game, folks. Like have have fun with it's a lifestyle, but it's also like a really fun game you can play with your partner. I mean, what was your favorite part about just being able to do that whole night? And what did you think about the fact that it involved no sex at all?

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Oh, I mean, I loved every single moment of it. I got to play games, I got to get a giant stuffed animal, which Lord knows wherever the hell that thing went, but um I got to uh make eyes with him across the room while I am busy dancing with other guys, and he's sitting there just like embarrassed holding my stuffed animal in my purse. Um you know, I it was it was just fun all the way through.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

It was. So before we take off, um wanna quickly just let you guys know. We mentioned that Lexi does coaching and and also virtual and in-person experiences. Do you want to talk? So a a little bit about this is that kinda I I had brought it up to to to Lexi, you know, initially when she started to to cuck me and I was like, dude, you are amazing at this. Like I wish you were around like back when I couldn't find somebody. Like I can't hoard you to myself. So why don't you talk about what you started to do and and like how it's going?

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Well, I mean, I do I do coaching. Um, and that coaching is um multifaceted. It's it's I do coaching for men who are um single, in a relationship, married, um, who want this sort of lifestyle, um, single guys who want to know how to bring it up, how to do it right, um, guys in a relationship who want to know how to bring it up and do it right, and guys in a relationship who tried without help and kind of, you know, just absolutely dive-bombed it and it went terrible. And they're trying to recover it and they're trying to see if it's still possible. Um, you know, I also do relationship coaching um for couples that are you know trying to navigate this because it is it's some murky waters and there is some navigating that is very helpful. And then, you know, I also talk to women who um are thinking about it, whether it's that their husband or partner has already talked with me and brought it up to them and they're kind of wondering, what the heck should I think about this? And I kind of guide them through and help them see the positives and um how wonderful this lifestyle can be. Um I also do uh virtual cuckolding and in-person um like immersive experiences. Um and um yeah, I mean, everything's very customized, so it's it's whatever um, you know, I like to help people, so that's what I do.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

I mean, it's so cool. I mean, sometimes I get to go and like play the role of the bull, which is not normally obviously my my role in this dynamic, but um you do it so well, but I do it so well, mostly because I have the mind of a cuck, so I know exactly what a cuck wants to hear from a bull. But um, yeah, and and so I mean you run them through the whole like nine yards of like the cuck night, like right?

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Like, I mean it's all it's from from it's immersive, it's from getting um ready. I mean, this it takes time to look this fabulous, okay? Um, they they help me get ready, they they hold my freaking makeup brushes while I am putting on makeup for someone else. You know, it's it's it's everything. There's I mean, there's so much that can be involved in it.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Yeah, it it is fun. And um, your website. What is your website so guys can find you if they want to uh talk to you about coaching or about one of these virtual or or online experiences, them joining your stable of cucks.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

It's uh cuck cultures Lexi, and that's L-E-X-I-E.com. Um, I can be found there.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Reach, reach out to to Lexi that way. So um this is um this has been this has been a lot of fun. We covered a lot of ground here. I have no idea how long this lasted. So sorry, folks, if uh if this episode is really long, but um really want to thank you, you know, Lexi, for being such a good partner. Um, and that's you know, I think the the key to I hope which what you all as listeners take from our rip from our talks is a lot of hot stuff. You're gonna hear a lot of hot stories, you're gonna hear a lot of good advice, you're gonna hear a lot of good guests, but I hope that you also lean into the fact that our dynamic is as what really makes our dynamic strong is our is our communication, our trust, and our deep admiration and love for each other, right, honey? Absolutely. Am I wrong? Am I just speaking out of time?

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Absolutely wrong. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Well, Lexi has a fun night in store for her, if you know what I mean. So we gotta let her go to go get finished with that. But thank you all, and we will talk to you again very soon.